Curse

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn

you are here to get someone, ANYONE to say unban you, not to discuss it, it was effectivly discussed, the answer seems to be you deserve it. just on the numbers i've seen. so there is your answer, hopefully a mod will close this soon. you are only here to discuss just your case, thought this was a community forum, not a Zarion Silverarrow forum. get over your self already

If I knew of any other case I would talk about it....I only know of 2,mine and a friend's. But said friend doesn't give a fly's butt about GW anymore,so I'm not gona work my @$$ off for him,since he's not going to use the account anyways.

And keep in mind,said friend has never used any third party program,not even textmod....

And most of the attacks against me have been using ASSUPMTIONS like that I am lying,or that I am here for another reason that I'm not saying...when you find a propper way to say I'm wrong without making stuff up,then you'l have my respect

Firebaall · May 28, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

...The only reason I am banned (IMO,and the opinon of about 40% of people here that agree with me) is because A-net can't tell if I botted for 10 years or 10 seconds.

No,I don't consider the action of walking for a few seconds to be "Gameplay"

If you botted for 10 seconds, you should have reported yourself. Since you didn't send anything to support about what you did, you don't deserve to be treated any different than anybody else that botted.

Matter of fact is, you broke the rules and you hoped that you got away with it.

Kydd · May 28, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54

The fact that anet has to spend resources on you and others like you costs money. If they didn't have to do this they could put more resources into skill balance and new content. Do you not see that as hurting others?

I do not think you should be unbanned for above reason.

Riot Narita · May 28, 2010, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

now tell me,how does that affect your gameplay?

People already posted how even the act of downloading a bot has a detrimental effect on other players. And also how people like you are wasting support time that would be better spent on people who aren't cheats. You choose to ignore that, and repeat the same question over and over. As if you can justify your actions by finding someone that wasn't directly affected by your cheating.

It doesn't matter whether you affected me personally, directly or indirectly... a lot, a little, or not at all. You chose to break the rules, you got the correct and appropriate punishment - exactly as advertised. That's nothing to do with me. It's between you and A-Net.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

If you botted for 10 seconds, you should have reported yourself. Since you didn't send anything to support about what you did, you don't deserve to be treated any different than anybody else that botted.

Matter of fact is, you broke the rules and you hoped that you got away with it.

Thats a problem I accept...

My understanding was that,and still is in part,that boting itself isn't bad UNTIL you gain 1gold,1 pt in any title,or any sort of advantage over someone.

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Originally Posted by Riot Narita

People already posted how even the act of downloading a bot has a detrimental effect on other players. And also how people like are wasting support time that would be better spent on people who aren't cheats. You choose to ignore that, and repeat the same question over and over. As if you can justify your actions by finding someone that wasn't directly affected by your cheating.

It doesn't matter whether you affected me personally, directly or indirectly... a lot, a little, or not at all. You chose to break the rules, you got the correct and appropriate punishment - exactly as advertised. That's nothing to do with me. It's between you and A-Net.

The "your gameplay" was directed to Kydd,hence the quoting of his post.

cormac ap dunn · May 28, 2010, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

If I knew of any other case I would talk about it....I only know of 2,mine and a friend's. But said friend doesn't give a fly's butt about GW anymore,so I'm not gona work my @$$ off for him,since he's not going to use the account anyways.

And keep in mind,said friend has never used any third party program,not even textmod....

And most of the attacks against me have been using ASSUPMTIONS like that I am lying,or that I am here for another reason that I'm not saying...when you find a propper way to say I'm wrong without making stuff up,then you'l have my respect

ok ok, man you ADMITTED you used a bot, but you feel you, and only you should be let go, because you alone are justified in using it... the point is you used it, for ten seconds or ten years, you used it. ever wonder if your friend doesn't care because he may be guilty? we know you are guilty. i am sorry you can't play with us anymore, i am, do i believe you wouldn't do it again? i do, you are working so hard to get your account back. but in the end it likely isn't going to happen, at least not with that account. perhaps if you ask support, they will allow you to get another account, assuming they didn't IP ban you, you could start fresh, new account, new outlook on the game.

Firebaall · May 28, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

Thats a problem I accept...

My understanding was that,and still is in part,that boting itself isn't bad UNTIL you gain 1gold,1 pt in any title,or any sort of advantage over someone.

The "your gameplay" was directed to Kydd,hence the quoting of his post.

And why would you have an understanding like that? What do you have for the basis of understanding that you must profit in someway before action should be taken?

You compromised the game and broke the rules. How could you even fathom a thought that you were allowed to do as you please, as long as you did not profit in some manner?

Sorry, but your "understanding" is reason enough to not want you back in this game.

Nerel · May 28, 2010, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog

I don't care about how it affected my gameplay, nor does ANET, it's about how you affected your own gameplay, did you choose to bot is a yes or no question.

I'm pretty sure Anet does care about how botting impacts other players enjoyment of the game, and their sense of fairness and a level playing field... you know, it's kind of how they make money... by getting us to want to play their game.

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog

This reminds me of how to catch a predator I ONLY CAME HERE TO WARN HER!1111

Dude, I didn't know she was under age...

She told me that she was over eighteen!

And I always believe everything that children tell me...

Bandwagon · May 28, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

My understanding was that,and still is in part,that boting itself isn't bad UNTIL you gain 1gold,1 pt in any title,or any sort of advantage over someone.

The EULA does not care about what you gained or lost when botting. The fact of the matter is, you used the program, and now you are paying the consequences.

Sorry for your loss, assuming your story is true.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon

The EULA does not care about what you gained or lost when botting. The fact of the matter is, you used the program, and now you are paying the consequences.

And I realize that...that is why I'm directly contacting A-net...I mean,who would have thought of adding something on the EULA about botting 10 seconds...theres probably about 5% of the 3700 people banned with my problem.

Resolving that 5%,using the EULA,would be to much work and loss of resources in other things.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon

Sorry for your loss, assuming your story is true.

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Originally Posted by Kharmin

Stupid hind-sight. Always 20/20.

Hopefully for Z S, support will review the case and rule in Z S's favor.

Thanks,nice to see people with a bit of understanding here.

Firebaall · May 28, 2010, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

And I realize that...that is why I'm directly contacting A-net...I mean,who would have thought of adding something on the EULA about botting 10 seconds...theres probably about 5% of the 3700 people banned with my problem.

Resolving that 5%,using the EULA,would be to much work and loss of resources in other things.

Thanks,nice to see people with a bit of understanding here.

Since you're so keen on making your condition so public, I'd like to see the letter to support, and their response. Post it.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

Since you're so keen on making your condition so public, I'd like to see the letter to support, and their response. Post it.

Response (Martina) 05/26/2010 10:34 PM
Hello,

Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team.

I am escalating your ticket to our Guild Wars senior staff members to assist you further. Once they have reviewed your question, one of them will contact you as soon as possible.

Regards,
GM Martina
The Guild Wars Support Team

Latest one.

I just want everyone to know;I don't hate GW,guru,anet,ncsoft,etc....If theres anyone to blame I know its me but I still hold on to my opinion

Firebaall · May 28, 2010, 06:25 PM // 18:25

That's not what you sent. I want to see your personal letter, and reasoning as to why you should be let back on Guild Wars.

Maglama · May 28, 2010, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I don't see why people are so worked up about it. This happened to me when my account was terminated for payment fraud. It was easily resolved with a simple email to support stating my innocence. My gameplay then resumed without me wasting time QQing about being wrongfully accused. This is a video game. Stop crying and get something done.

Firebaall · May 28, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Maglama

I don't see why people are so worked up about it. This happened to me when my account was terminated for payment fraud. It was easily resolved with a simple email to support stating my innocence. My gameplay then resumed without me wasting time QQing about being wrongfully accused. This is a video game. Stop crying and get something done.

Apples and Oranges.

You were wrongfully accused. These botters, were not.

~ Angel ~ · May 28, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29

I see it this way...it's *kind of* like you were caught in possession of an illegal weapon (please no digression to gun control issues, lol). Unless you can unequivocally prove to the judge (Anet) that you never used that weapon (the bot prog) for any wrong doing, you are nothing but a botter to them. And even then, they may not be sympathetic to you.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

That's not what you sent. I want to see your personal letter, and reasoning as to why you should be let back on Guild Wars.

As you said,its personal.

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Originally Posted by Maglama

I don't see why people are so worked up about it. This happened to me when my account was terminated for payment fraud. It was easily resolved with a simple email to support stating my innocence. My gameplay then resumed without me wasting time QQing about being wrongfully accused. This is a video game. Stop crying and get something done.

I already sent an email...I don't consider discussing this issue as wasting time....whether or not I post here is irrelevant as to i get unbanned or not...I know that,I'm just discussing..

Maglama · May 28, 2010, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

Apples and Oranges.

You were wrongfully accused. These botters, were not.

I'm referring to the ones who said they weren't guilty of botting, of course.

Firebaall · May 28, 2010, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

As you said,its personal.

Then stop trying to drum up support for your case here.

What I hear from you: Please....unban me! Guru people, don't you think I deserve another chance? I only cheated a little bit!

What you use it for: See Anet support? The community thinks you're being to harsh on me...read this thread...

I see manipulation here, and I'm not suprised by it.

Ninja Ninja · May 28, 2010, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Maglama

I'm referring to the ones who said they weren't guilty of botting, of course.

I think just about all of them are crying innocent.
Zarion did bot so he deserves his perma ban, how long he did it is irrelevant.